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09

What is Michael Jackson and Bob Fosse!

What is this recurring character, the Dapper Dan with his top hat, those notorious spat covered dance shoes and the timeless tuxedo? Is that Micheal Jackson reincarnated? The truth of the matter is that Michael Jackson, though respectfully the King of Pop was not the original, not the king of the style for which he became best known. He was not the king of those moves we all coveted and tried imitating, rather he was  the “joker” that made the style famous. The true king was Bob Fosse, the legendary jazz dancer and Broadway choreographer.  Michael Jackson borrowed Fosse’s style and moves, gave them a pop culture back drop and brought them to the unsuspecting masses.  I guess it is not he who starts the race first, but he who finishes with the prize, the Grammy’s, the accolade, the recognition that we remember most. To all the youngsters out there who fight to be first up, strive to be the 1 remembered! Much praise to Michael for recognizing Fosse’s talent and not being afraid to cop it and reinvent it as his own. It goes without saying, “there is nothing new under the sun!”

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11 Responses to “What is Michael Jackson and Bob Fosse!”


  1. December 4, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    this is crazy! My friend showed this comparison to me a couple weeks ago and i was totally amazed! Have you seen the ‘Single Ladies’ comparison to Bob Fosse’s wife’s group coreography?? Check these links:

  2. 2 ReiLee
    May 8, 2010 at 12:46 AM

    I can’t commend any talentless shlob for stealing the ideas of others and capitalizing on it. You have to give credit where it’s due. I love Michael, but his constant praise of Fred Astaire and Chaplin seems near-pointless because most of the dance style that we know him for comes from Bob Fosse. Bob does it best and he’s not lewd or vulgar. Bob Fosse is so well-respected by those who don’t swallow down anything the media crams down their throat. Fosse is the man and the real man emerged. I believe in giving due credit and I believe in originality. I love Michael. He was very talented, but he was no original. To quote Jurassic Park, “He stood on the shoulders of geniuses.” These geniuses were Joe Jackson, Berry Gordy, Quincy Jones, and Bob Fosse. I have to look at Fosse more. Michael may have even borrowed his hee-hees from Fosse too,LOL. Shame on the media for not highlighting this fact. If they wanted to kill Michael Jackson’s career, all they need to do was repeatedly air The Little Prince. By the way, single ladies is one of the most annoying songs ever made. She should have been arrested for that irritating ear worm of a song.

  3. 3 ReiLee
    May 8, 2010 at 12:54 AM

    I also want to say that as far as the Jackson 5 goes, they were just imitations of Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. Young Frankie Lymon would sang Young Michael Jackson through the floor any day.

    • 4 tonywilliamsmusic
      May 9, 2010 at 11:13 PM

      this person is ridiculous

    • 5 line
      August 29, 2010 at 5:32 AM

      “I also want to say that as far as the Jackson 5 goes, they were just imitations of Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. Young Frankie Lymon would sang Young Michael Jackson through the floor any day.”

      what a joke.

      No way! Frankie Lymon was talented but sang like a choriste. He had not the charisma and the soul of jackson.

  4. 6 Halimah Kyrgios
    November 12, 2010 at 11:42 PM

    Hi william, i am doing a thesis on this topic at the moment 🙂 do u think I could do an interview with you. Just asking 4 questions. As i see your interest in this topic it would be good for evidence to support my argument.

    Thank you,

    Halimah

  5. 8 Darslow
    December 25, 2010 at 11:34 PM

    You guys don’t stand a chance trying to prove that Fosse was better than Michael Jackson. Although it is clear that MJ did borrow some moves from Bob Fosse, he clearly made them his own. Don’t even try to sell the lie that Fosse can put on a show the way MJ did. Everyone, including Bob Fosse was inspired by someone. Originality is rarely defined as a revolutionary idea like the invention of the telephone or the air plane. Every generation has taken the foundations left from other generations and have built on them. Just because someone uses some one else’s ideas doesn’t make that person a thief. Michael Jackson often gave credit to his influences, although I have not found any documentation of him giving credit to Fosse. Whatever the case, I can say with 98% certainty that Fosse, in a million years, would not have dazzled the world the way Michael did. He just didn’t have that “It” factor.

  6. 9 D
    February 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Are people forgetting that Bob Fosse choregraphed Jazz dance which are dances stolen from African American and Carribean dances!

  7. 10 Truth Prevail
    December 23, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    “I can’t commend any talentless shlob for stealing the ideas of others and capitalizing on it. You have to give credit where it’s due. I love Michael, but his constant praise of Fred Astaire and Chaplin seems near-pointless because most of the dance style that we know him for comes from Bob Fosse. Bob does it best and he’s not lewd or vulgar. Bob Fosse is so well-respected by those who don’t swallow down anything the media crams down their throat. Fosse is the man and the real man emerged. I believe in giving due credit and I believe in originality. I love Michael. He was very talented, but he was no original. To quote Jurassic Park, “He stood on the shoulders of geniuses.” These geniuses were Joe Jackson, Berry Gordy, Quincy Jones, and Bob Fosse. I have to look at Fosse more. Michael may have even borrowed his hee-hees from Fosse too,LOL. Shame on the media for not highlighting this fact. If they wanted to kill Michael Jackson’s career, all they need to do was repeatedly air The Little Prince. By the way, single ladies is one of the most annoying songs ever made. She should have been arrested for that irritating ear worm of a song.”

    What a bunch of rubbish how you gonna say he stole it when he never claimed he invented it the first place.

    And i don’t think you believe what you type showing everyone the little prince is would have never stopped people going to see Michael Jackson and you know it.

    “What is this recurring character, the Dapper Dan with his top hat, those notorious spat covered dance shoes and the timeless tuxedo? Is that Micheal Jackson reincarnated? The truth of the matter is that Michael Jackson, though respectfully the King of Pop was not the original, not the king of the style for which he became best known. He was not the king of those moves we all coveted and tried imitating, rather he was the “joker” that made the style famous. The true king was Bob Fosse, the legendary jazz dancer and Broadway choreographer. Michael Jackson borrowed Fosse’s style and moves, gave them a pop culture back drop and brought them to the unsuspecting masses. I guess it is not he who starts the race first, but he who finishes with the prize, the Grammy’s, the accolade, the recognition that we remember most. To all the youngsters out there who fight to be first up, strive to be the 1 remembered! Much praise to Michael for recognizing Fosse’s talent and not being afraid to cop it and reinvent it as his own. It goes without saying, “there is nothing new under the sun!””

    Okay first the top hat thing has been going on way before Fosse and i sure know he was not the first to rock that style Fred Astair etc… same with the dance shoes the shoes have nothing to do with Fosse more like the patent James Brown inspired shoes he wore His style was not copied from Fosse either i never saw Fosse wear glittery socks or glittery jackets or even wear a one glove.

    His “Style” for dancing was not much of Fosse but more of street dance Popping etc.. if anything and i’m pretty sure i saw MJ do stuff that i bet Fosse could not or never did.

    Spat shoes tuxedo’s did not come from Fosse either.

    I seen that clip of Fosse doing the snake dance routine i see wear MJ may got ideas but it is not a complete copy neither is the outfit the only thing similar is that the outfit is black the funny thing is no one would be discussing the little prince routine if it wasn’t for MJ it’s thanks to MJ the world took notice and gave these moves the recognition they deserve.

    What you on about “true king” you act everything MJ did was completely Bob Fosse when it wasn’t i see more James brown and soul train body poppers in MJ any day and MJ himself.

  8. 11 Dianne Chilgren
    March 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    All the greats have stood on the shoulders of those who came before. That is not new. In pop music, and in classical music. Beethoven could not have existed without BACH or Mozart. And the same with Dance…all dance…(classical and pop) is based on what came before. This does not negate the latest artist’s accomplishments….Michael added to everything he ‘borrowed’ and made it his own. This is how it works…


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